January 10, 2007
I hate it when I’m almost too mad to write clearly.
Basically, as far as I am concerned, Standard Insurance has stolen more than $6300 from me and refuses to give it back or give me appropriate customer service.
In late October, I initiated a rollover from my 401k at Fidelity, the provider of 401ks at my last job. Fidelity issued a check to me (their policy; they won’t directly mail a check to another provider) and I forwarded it on to Standard.
A couple of weeks later I noticed it still hadn’t posted to my account.
I called Standard and they gave me some vague blow-off about it not being received, no record of it, all while sounding annoyed at me. After this conversation, I presumed I’d screwed up the paperwork somehow and the check had been lost.
Standard advised me to wait a while and see if it surfaced.
As of last week, it still hadn’t posted and I hadn’t heard anything. I called back. They gave me the same runaround, but this time suggested I contact Fidelity and get a check re-issued, as it had been lost.
I called Fidelity (who has great customer service, so far, by the way), who said they’d love to re-issue a check, but they couldn’t, as the check they wrote in October had been cashed November 6th.
I called Standard back (this was last Thursday or so) and presented them with this information. At this point I got a little less nice. My not-niceness was very much ignored as the gentleman rushed to get me off the phone. The insinuation was still that somehow I’d done something wrong. No apologies. No explanations. Just a “we marked this as urgent” (with no sense of urgency) and “someone will call you back on Monday or Tuesday.”
It’s Wednesday. I can’t say I’m surprised no one called me yet, but I called them again this a.m. No further information (urgent my ass) and the same lackluster phone experience with the guy not particularly helpful or nice. Could I talk to the department researching this? No, apparently, he claimed they’re in the “back office” and can’t talk to people. Finally I demanded his supervisor, and ended up at voice mail. I wonder if this person will return my call.
For now, I’m sitting back, trying not to be too angry, waiting for a copy of Fidelity’s check to arrive in the mail (see–Fidelity even suggested this themselves…there is such thing as proactive customer service) and wondering if I should call a lawyer.
Thoughts?
Is the only reason you are using Standard Insurance because your current employer has their 401k with them or some such, or did you actually choose them because they seemed like they offered something useful?
If it is the former, and I know this doesn’t actually help now, but in general, I have found it is a bad idea to roll a 401k over into another 401k plan. They are generally run by companies that don’t have the best service, charge too many fees, and don’t have the best or lowest expense ratio funds; their customer isn’t primarily you, it is the company they provide 401k services to. Instead just roll it over to an IRA at the place of your choice, then when you leave your next company just roll that 401k into the same IRA, etc.
But, at this point, you just have to be persistent probably. Make sure to try to hold each person you talk to accountable for what they are doing next. Eventually they will work it out.
Of course you should call a lawyer, this follows the rule for so many things: If you are asking, “should I do X?” The answer is always yes, in my experience, I’d say an outlay of $150 or whatever to get a lawyer to write a letter is worth 6 Large of piece of mind. This is why there are so many lawyers, they come in handy.